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Re: Another Introduction |
I'm a private practitioner (9 years) but work for two schools specialising in HE Advice - I also do talks on this area for various organisations and have work published on HE Advice (as you can see its all a bit niche). Even though I work directly to two schools I'm paid by invoice and registered as self employed.
I passionately believe it can be possible to work independently in careers guidance and that we need to think for ourselves rather than rely on the inconsistent thinking of whatever government is in power. |
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4G assessment |
Dear Lynn,
I haven't heard of the 4G assessment. Would you be willing to put some details under the Assessments thread so we can all find out more? |
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Hi Lynn
I would also be interested in hearing about this assessment and also whether you let customers decide what is the most appropriate assessment for them, or direct them to what you believe will help? After talking about the benefits and providing a lot of further information for a client, I have just lost her because she didn't feel that the assessments on offer were "calling to her." Would be interested in your thoughts. |
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Hi Carol - I posted a link to the 4G in the discussion thread "Assessments" - but here it is again http://www.thedevelopmentcompass.com/for_practitioners/
or http://www.fourgroups.com/
Your point about letting a client decide what tool to use is a good one. Having a range of options is good, and not being prescriptive should show the client that there is no 'one size fits all' solution. Were there different costs involved? What was contact time and feedback reporting for client?
After listening to my client's position, I come up with 2-3 'menu plans' which give options for assessment, self-appraisal and consultation, etc - I would clearly highlight the one I think is most useful and appropriate for their situation but give them the choice. Usually, but not always, I place my preferred option in the middle range of costs, contact etc but on occasions the client will take the full works, with bells, whistles and all.
Not sure if this is the answer you were looking for. |
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Hi Lynn
Thank you for your prompt reply. The client came to me thinking she would like to do MBTI. We spoke on the phone about her situation and I gave her 2 cost options for MBTI - the assessment and 2 hours of my costed time + c ost with the cost of the profile booklet included. I also sent an outline of my general services/costs.
She then came back and asked to speak to me about ICCS, which she thought she might prefer, as a friend had said he had done MBTI online and didn't find it very helpful.
I pointed out that this may not have been the genuine version of MBTI and sent her some sample reports. I also sent some articles on ICCS as she had asked for further info on this. She then came back with the comment I mentioned.
I was just wondering how I could have handled it better. Any more thoughts?
Not clear about what you mean by the menu plans. Do you sometimes offer the assessment without feedback from yourself?
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I guess the sinker was that her friend hadn't found it useful.
I would say that all the assessment tools add value to the thought making process but the feedback and discussion which qualified consultants give is essential and that even completing self-appraisal exercises need some debrief and comment from a professional.
No, the menu options always include feedback and some form of consultation. Sometimes though the feedback is a written report and and then a follow up session to discuss it later, although my preference is to have the discussion before presenting the report.
I'm not familiar with ICCS, please tell me more about that. |
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Hi Lynn
This is a link for ICCS, which explains all about the system:
http://www.derby.ac.uk/cegs/tandl1.asp?ID=3
I wondered whether you would mind sending me an example of how you word the offer at 3 levels to customers, so I can understand this better. If you aren't comfortable posing it here, feel free to send it to my personal e-mail address. I don't use 4G, so you could perhaps illustrate with this.
Hope you find the ICCS useful.
Carol |
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